|Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 7:21 pm: |
I'm happy to report that after viewing this site I am now pregnant and carrying a baby for the first time ever after experiencing 7 miscarriages! I use natural progesterone cream and apply it to the soft parts of my body. I am using half a teaspoon twice a day. I am now deciding if I should cut the dose down to 1/2 a teaspoon once a day now that I am in the second trimester and the placenta has taken over in the production of progesterone. My Dr. said I could go off of it, but i don't plan to do this. I plan to stay on it until the baby is born. Thanks, Rachael S
|Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 3:04 pm: |
I've had six miscarriages and doctors can't tell me what's wrong with me. I am fustrated because I want a child so bad and I don't know what to do anymore. Can someone help please?
|Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 12:01 pm: |
Below is some info I found that may be helpful to you.
The proper amount of natural progesterone is crucial to a woman who is trying to become pregnant. Natural Progesterone prepares the uterine wall for implantation of the fertilized egg. Without adequate progesterone, the egg will be expelled. Natural Progesterone treatment can also be used to induce fertility when there appears to be ovulatory dysfunction.
· Progesterone makes Possible the Survival of the Fertilized Egg
· Maintains the Secretory Endometrium which Feeds the Ovum & Resultant Embryo
· Progesterone Surge at Ovulation is the Source of Libido or sex drive.
Before you begin the expensive and often unsuccessful process of working with a fertility clinic, we recommend that you read Dr. Lee's first book, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause", which will give you a detailed look at how your hormones work. Also, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Pre-Menopause"
Dr. Lee had a number of patients in his practice who had been unable to conceive. For two to four months he had them use natural progesterone from days 5 to 26 in the cycle (stopping on day 26 to bring on menstration). Using the progesterone prior to ovulation effectively suppressed ovulation. After a few months of this, he had them stop progesterone use prior to ovulation. If you still have follicles left, they seem to respond to a few months of suppression with enthusiasm -- the successful maturation and release of an egg. His patients, some of whom had been trying to conceive for years, had very good luck conceiving with this method.
Because progesterone is essential to prevent the premature shedding of the supportive secretory endometrium, a significant drop in progesterone levels or blockade of progesterone receptor sites during the first 10 - 12 weeks of pregnancy may result in the loss of the embryo (miscarriage).
Women with a history of miscarriage should begin using progesterone cream as soon as they know they have ovulated, to supplement their own progesterone and offset any environmental estrogen effects. (Using progesterone before ovulation can create a hormonal signal that tells the brain not to ovulate)
If you want to be pregnant and you're using progesterone cream, it's very important to keep using progesterone cream until you find out whether you're pregnant. (You can take a pregnancy test a few days after your period would normally be due.) The sudden drop in progesterone levels created if you stop using the cream can cause what is, in effect, an abortion, by bringing on menstruation.
If you find out that you are not pregnant, stop taking the progesterone on day 28 of your cycle or whenever the last day of your cycle normally occurs (or when testing shows you are not pregnant). If you are pregnant, keep using the progesterone every day in normal doses. It's fine to use it throughout your pregnancy, and it's important not to stop it suddenly until your third trimester when the placenta is making so much that it won't notice if there's a drop of 15 to 30 mg a day.
Research by British hormone researcher Katherina Dalton, M.D., indicates that babies born to mothers who used natural progesterone during pregnancy are normal--and, in fact, are larger, calmer, and smarter. Also in her 1968 study she found that none of the women receiving antenatal progesterone experienced toxemia during the pregnancy. In her control group, more than half experienced toxemia. Used from conception to delivery, applied primarily to abdomen, breast, low back, and upper thighs progesterone will tend to prevent the skin from stretching. The cream is also useful for post partum depression which many women experience after childbirth.
|Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 7:52 pm: |
I'm 42 and TTC #2 (daughter, 14). I suspect I have a short luteal phase and know that I've miscarried a few times in the past year, at very early stages.
Wondering if I need to go to a fertility doctor for a proper workup or can I just begin to take natural progesterone cream on my own, after I ovulate?
My FSH level is 6.8 and estradiol is 68, which my gyn said was excellent. Therefore, I'm guessing my problem may be not enough progesterone.
Can it actually hurt me to use progesterone if this is in fact, not my problem at all?
|Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:56 am: |
Many doctors are still ignorant about natural progesterone and as a result women often decide to get informed and take charge themselves. Some doctors will work with you so if your not sure then be sure to ask your doctor if he/she has studied this. If not then suggest they read Dr John Lee's first book which was written specifically for doctors titled, "Natural Progesterone, The Multiple Roles of a Remarkable Hormone".
In many cases women who have had numerous miscarraiges have found that the correct use of natural progesterone has resulted in the ability to maintain pregnancy during the critical first 3 months.
Natural progesterone is not harmful anymore than water is harmful. However we can drown in water or hurt ourselves if we drink gallons of water in a short period of time. Progesterone is the same. Too much progesterone for more than 6 months will result in progesterone receptors down-regulating, and the return of estrogen dominance (i.e. the body not utilizing the available progesterone).
It is important NOT to stop using progesterone cream abruptly during the first three months of pregnancy. The drop in progesterone is a signal to the body to terminate the cycle and begin mensturation.
|Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 1:28 pm: |
Thanks for the info.. So is there any chance I could actually harm myself by taking natural progesterone?
I'm diligently charting bbt, cm and using OPK (which have given highly erradic readings) but know that I may have a tendency to mc early. In the past year I truly knew I was pregnant (late period, all the symptons) and then a sudden intense cramping before bleeding/clotting. I'm 42, ttc#2 and have FSH of 6.8 and estradiol of 68, which ob told me was excellent for my age.
Finances don't allow a high tech RE route, so I'm trying to inform myself and try the natural methods before resorting to this.
Any other suggestions?
|Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:09 pm: |
For others reading here are a few definitions.
Basal Body Temperatures (BBT)
Ovulation Predictor Kit (OPK)
Cervical Mucus (cm)
Trying to Conceive 2nd Child (ttc#2)
You could cause a period to be longer by using higher amounts toward the end of the cycle, you could cut a cycle short by stopping early, you might feel emotional as your progesterone level increases and hormones balance. Often cycles become regular, moodiness goes away, libido increases within a month or two.
The only possibility of harm that I've have heard of is when a pregnant women started using progeseterone after there were signs of trouble. Turns out she had miscarried and didn't know it and the progesterone she started using was preventing the natural purging of the dead fetus. She ended up sick and had to go to a doctor for a dnc. This could have become life threatening. While this is an unusual case it is one to remember.
For the record, I am not a doctor and not giving medical advice. Just sharing what I have learned.
|Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:14 pm: |
Thanks so much for our time and info..
Where can I guy natural progesterone cream? Thought I'd read Dr. Lee's books mentioned and then start it on my next cycle.
|Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 2:39 pm: |
The cream we have used, recommend and have seen great results with for 6 years is Renewed Balance
Dr John Lee's other books are
"What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause" - "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About PreMenopause" - "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer"
Dr Lee's books are based on his experience and backed up by pages of scientific studies. The "Menopause" book alone has 19 pages of references. Read any one of these books and you will understand more than most doctors about women's hormones and the importance of going natural. (Doctors only need to study this information which the schools failed to teach and they would be able to truely help many women naturally.)
|Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 2:31 pm: |
I was put on prometriun (progesterone from peanuts) early in pregnancy for bleeding and threating miscarrage. I recently stop taking cause the dr says the placenta should take over the production, but I have had serious depression/anxiety and mood swings since I quit taking it. Could it be because of the drop in progesterone. Would it hurt me to start using some natural cream.?
|Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 3:07 pm: |
No won't hurt at all (unless excessively huge amounts were used daily - kind of like drowning in water - we need water but we can get too much), progesterone can be used via a cream (or even prometrium) during the entire pregnancy. Since the placenta takes over in progesterone production after the first trimester, the baby is no longer at risk so the drs don't see it as necessary. But as you have pointed out there are benefits to you personally. My opinion is that if your body wasn't producing enough to safely maintain the pregnancy then its likely that its not producing enough now, without the prometrium to maintain a good emotional balance.
We've seen great results with the Renewed Balance Natural Progesterone Cream since it became available in 1997. see
We highly recommend BarleyLife for a nutritional supplement while pregnant and while nursing. See
There is a money back guarantee on these products so you can sample a whole jar before deciding if they benefit you.
See the AIM Products Good Report Database for a number of Renewed Balance & BarleyLife good reports http://info2share.com/goodreports
|Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 3:07 pm: |
yes i am five weeks pregant i just started taking prometrium 100mg. today . i have been using natural progestrone cream for about two months now, i have had four miscarriages the last one eleven months ago,i am 39 years old i really dont want to get excited after four losses but has anyone else been in this siuation?
|Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 4:57 pm: |
I have searched and searched the internet to find anyone who has been through what I have. I just found out I'm 6 weeks pregnant. I began using natural progesterone cream a couple days after my last cycle. I didn't even use the recommened daily application. I stopped using it a couple days before my expected menstrual cycle. We've been ttc for over 4 years. I've been through lots of basic fertility treatments up to my first IVF attempt last November. I was diagnosed with endometriosis 4 years ago. I had laser surgery to remove the scar tissue...concieved 3 weeks after my surgery then miscarried at 8 weeks. I had my second laparoscopy over a year ago and only my tubes had mucous plugs but the doc was able to flush them. I have my first RE ultrasound and blood work tomorrow morning. I'm very nervous because I've been having mild cramping. However, I'm completely thrilled I was able to conceive on my own after trying so long and spending so much on treatments!!!! THANKS TO DR. LEE AND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT PROGESTERONE CREAM!!!!!
|Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:12 pm: |
I went for my first visit today. Sonogram predicted I am 6 weeks... and we could see the heart beat : ) I can't even believe it! My RE said it's common for women to get pregnant within 6 months of their failed IVF attempt. I still believe it was the natural progesterone cream. I go back in two weeks. I'll keep you posted.
|Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 3:16 pm: |
does anyone know if it is possible to concieve while on prometrium?
|Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 6:59 pm: |
Kris, yes it is possible to conceive while on prometrium. Prometrium is the real progesterone in pill form - (although probably not the best for the liver since it has to filter out most of it. )
Although taking progesterone in high enough quantities for several days before ovulation can prevent the release of an egg. If trying to get pregnant it would be best to start the progesterone at the time of ovulation, which is often day 12 for those with 24 to 26 day cycles, then stop it at the expected end of the cycle.
Something to consider though; if you expect pregnancy at the end of the cycle you shouldn't stop using progesterone (as a large drop in progesterone could trigger the end of the cycle) until you are sure you are not pregnant.
Miscarriages can be due to low progesterone as progesterone is necessary to maintain pregnancy. In such cases it would be important to keep the progesterone level up during the first three months. Then the placenta takes over producing high amounts of progesterone.
I am not giving medical advice, just sharing my educated opinion.
|Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 3:39 pm: |
Mother's day weekend i found out that i was pregnant with a home pregnancy test. Six days later, i experienced cramping and bleeding (a clot). I went to the ER, blood work was done, transvaginal ultrasound, ect. It was diagnosed as a threatened miscarriage, because in the sonogram they still detected a sac. I went to my doctor the following day for more blood work to measure my HCG hormones. I had a pelvic exam and the doctor determined that my cervix was closed. Two days later, i had more blood drawn. I went back a week from my appointment for another sonogram and to go over my blood test results. The sonogram show no growth in the sac and a slight heartbeat. My blood work show that my progestrone level was 3.3 and my HCG hormones only increased 200 instead of double. My doctor doesnt believe in giving me progestrone to help me sustain my pregnancy. I am worried that i have a deficit in progestrone. I have another appointment on Friday, no bloodwork, just a sonogram. I have been researching any changes i can make in my diet to help my pregnancy along. Does any one know if there are any effects on the baby taking over the counter progestrone??
|Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
Alc, progesterone levels must be adequate (as supplied by the mothers body) during the first 3 months of pregnancy. Low progesterone is a signal to the body to stop the present cycle and start a new cycle. Progesterone supplementation for women with known progesterone deficieny can allow pregnancy to continue to the start of the 4th month when the placenta takes over producing the progesterone. However progesterone supplementation can also prevent the body from aborting the cycle when the fetus has died. Keeping progesterone high in this case can be life threatening to the women.
|Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
I am 6 weeks along, and I believe I may be having a miscarriage. I spotted brownish 3 days ago, and then red today (one time). I have been using Emerita Progesterone cream 2x per day. Will this prolong the miscarriage? If I am going to miscarry, I would rather have it done and over with instead of waiting for weeks because I am still using the otc progesterone cream. Thanks!
|Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
Look closely at the post above on May 30 2006. It is right on. If the baby has died, continued progesterone supplementation "might" prevent the body from naturally purging the fetus. So if one is certain that the baby has died then progesterone supplementation should be stopped. The body "must" be allowed to naturally purge the dead fetus and bloody uterine lining. This is critical for your health. Spotting doesn't necessarily mean you've miscarried. See a doctor or a midwife if you need help understanding what is goign on.
|Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 5:23 pm: |
iam 6 weeks pg and my doctor gave prometrium to take because my progesterone level was at 14.6 i had a misscarrige a yr ago can the pill help me from haveing another miscarriage
|Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 12:39 am: |
I'm trying to get some info on a threating miscarriage. 6 weeks pregnant with twins, had a threating miscarriage and lost one. I want to know what happens now, will this baby survivr?
|Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
Many miscarriages occur because of low progesterone in the first three months (due to the bodies inability to produce enough progesterone to maintain the pregnancy). After that the placenta takes over producing lots of progesterone. Your dr should have tested your progesterone level and if low immediately put you on some form of natural/real progesterone, often a progesterone suppository is given. The fake progesterone drugs, called progestins, must not be used as they are not the same as real progesterone and can cause birth defects. If your 'threatening miscarriage' was caused by low progesterone then there is a good chance that adding progesterone will prevent the second baby from being lost. If your progesterone level is fine then ask your doctor for other possibilities.